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Πάντα και αναπόφευκτα ο καθένας από μας υποτιμά τον αριθμό των ηλιθίων ατόμων που κυκλοφορούν.
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Ĉiam kaj neekveturinte ĉiuj el ni subtaskas la nombron de idiotoj cirkaŭ nin.
Odbijeno od lilian canale - 8 April 2010 23:51





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14 Novembar 2009 00:52

stevo
Broj poruka: 78
What does this Greek text mean in English, Spanish, French, Russian, or German?

14 Novembar 2009 01:03

Francky5591
Broj poruka: 12396
Hi dear Greek expert(s)!

Please, could we have a bridge for evaluation?
Thanks a lot!

CC: User10 irini reggina

14 Novembar 2009 04:08

irini
Broj poruka: 849
Πάντα και αναπόφευκτα ο καθένας από μας υποτιμά τον αριθμό των ηλιθίων ατόμων που κυκλοφορούν.

Hey there!
Word for word
"Always and inescapably everyone of us underestimates the number of stupid/idiotic persons that circulate"

In proper English
"Always and inescapably everyone of us underestimates the number of idiots around (us)"

The meaning is that there is no one between the non-stupid people who does not underestimate the number of stupid people who walk around us. And this happens always and cannot be changed"

The note just says "The first fundamental law of human stupidity/idiocy". I guess a translation has to have the form of such a "law"/"axiom". It sort of does in Greek

14 Novembar 2009 12:18

User10
Broj poruka: 1173
glavkos also gave his bridge here. (the same as irini's)

22 Novembar 2009 11:55

Kuba
Broj poruka: 27
I am not agree with the interpretation of the greek "αναπόφευκτα" and Russian "неизбежно" as well as the Croatian "neizbežno" with the Esperanto word "neekveturinte" nor with the grammar of the translation.
What is meant in the original text is the inevitability of the meeting of the idiots around. So the right-Esperanto word would be "neeviteble.
Anything else: the grammatical form after "cirkau" - then why accusative there?
Sincerely,

Kuba

3 Decembar 2009 00:31

stevo
Broj poruka: 78
Well, yeah, "neeviteble" and "cxirkaux nin" are essentially my own objections, which I made several days ago. I wonder how you didn't see that post.
OTOH, I don't know where to find that post either.

2 Decembar 2009 14:45

sudastelaro
Broj poruka: 21
if the Portuguese one is right with αναπόφευκτα meaning "unavoidably", that translates in Esperanto by "neeviteble" or "nepre" (instead of "neekveturinte". And instead "ĉirkaŭ nin" it should be "ĉirkaŭ ni".

4 Decembar 2009 23:10

glavkos
Broj poruka: 97
@Sudastelaro: ok...if you have admin rights go on and change it...

8 Decembar 2009 19:47

zciric
Broj poruka: 91
"Ĉiam kaj neeviteble, ĉiu el ni subtaskas la nombron da idiotoj kiuj ĉirkaŭas nin."

9 Decembar 2009 01:45

stevo
Broj poruka: 78
Plej bone! Hura al zciric!

28 Decembar 2009 23:50

Bergino
Broj poruka: 13
"Ĉiam kaj neevitebla ni ĉiuj subtaksas la nombron da idiotoj ĉirkaŭ ni."

28 Decembar 2009 23:51

Mecharto
Broj poruka: 10
Ne "nin" sed "ni". Krom tio, mi pensas, ke "neekveturinte" estas iomete malfacile komprenebla. LaÅ­ la portugala traduko, mi proponas "neeviteble", sed mi ne komprenas la grekan...