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Ĉiam kaj neekveturinte ĉiuj el ni subtaskas la nombron de idiotoj cirkaŭ nin.
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14 November 2009 00:52

stevo
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What does this Greek text mean in English, Spanish, French, Russian, or German?

14 November 2009 01:03

Francky5591
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Hi dear Greek expert(s)!

Please, could we have a bridge for evaluation?
Thanks a lot!

CC: User10 irini reggina

14 November 2009 04:08

irini
Tal av boðum: 849
Πάντα και αναπόφευκτα ο καθένας από μας υποτιμά τον αριθμό των ηλιθίων ατόμων που κυκλοφορούν.

Hey there!
Word for word
"Always and inescapably everyone of us underestimates the number of stupid/idiotic persons that circulate"

In proper English
"Always and inescapably everyone of us underestimates the number of idiots around (us)"

The meaning is that there is no one between the non-stupid people who does not underestimate the number of stupid people who walk around us. And this happens always and cannot be changed"

The note just says "The first fundamental law of human stupidity/idiocy". I guess a translation has to have the form of such a "law"/"axiom". It sort of does in Greek

14 November 2009 12:18

User10
Tal av boðum: 1173
glavkos also gave his bridge here. (the same as irini's)

22 November 2009 11:55

Kuba
Tal av boðum: 27
I am not agree with the interpretation of the greek "αναπόφευκτα" and Russian "неизбежно" as well as the Croatian "neizbežno" with the Esperanto word "neekveturinte" nor with the grammar of the translation.
What is meant in the original text is the inevitability of the meeting of the idiots around. So the right-Esperanto word would be "neeviteble.
Anything else: the grammatical form after "cirkau" - then why accusative there?
Sincerely,

Kuba

3 Desember 2009 00:31

stevo
Tal av boðum: 78
Well, yeah, "neeviteble" and "cxirkaux nin" are essentially my own objections, which I made several days ago. I wonder how you didn't see that post.
OTOH, I don't know where to find that post either.

2 Desember 2009 14:45

sudastelaro
Tal av boðum: 21
if the Portuguese one is right with αναπόφευκτα meaning "unavoidably", that translates in Esperanto by "neeviteble" or "nepre" (instead of "neekveturinte". And instead "ĉirkaŭ nin" it should be "ĉirkaŭ ni".

4 Desember 2009 23:10

glavkos
Tal av boðum: 97
@Sudastelaro: ok...if you have admin rights go on and change it...

8 Desember 2009 19:47

zciric
Tal av boðum: 91
"Ĉiam kaj neeviteble, ĉiu el ni subtaskas la nombron da idiotoj kiuj ĉirkaŭas nin."

9 Desember 2009 01:45

stevo
Tal av boðum: 78
Plej bone! Hura al zciric!

28 Desember 2009 23:50

Bergino
Tal av boðum: 13
"Ĉiam kaj neevitebla ni ĉiuj subtaksas la nombron da idiotoj ĉirkaŭ ni."

28 Desember 2009 23:51

Mecharto
Tal av boðum: 10
Ne "nin" sed "ni". Krom tio, mi pensas, ke "neekveturinte" estas iomete malfacile komprenebla. LaÅ­ la portugala traduko, mi proponas "neeviteble", sed mi ne komprenas la grekan...