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Пусть твои враги покинут тебя, Если ты достигнешь...
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alenkafrank에 의해서 게시됨
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Пусть твои враги покинут тебя,
Если ты достигнешь богатств, пусть они останутся с тобой
навсегда,
Пусть твоя красота будет как красота Апсары
Куда бы ты не отправилась, пусть многие последуют за тобой,
служа и защищая тебя.
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Hostes tui ab te discedant...
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Hostes tui ab te discedant,
Si divitias attingas, illae cum te semper maneant
Pulchritudo tua ut forma Apsarae sit
Quandocumque venias, multi te sequantur
tibi servientes te custodientesque.
Aneta B.에 의해서 마지막으로 검증 또는 수정되었습니다 - 2012년 10월 9일 09:58





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2012년 10월 4일 21:01

Aneta B.
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Hi Siberia,
It seems that we haven't got many people here who know both Russian and Latin.
Could you give me a bridge for the text then?

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2012년 10월 8일 17:47

Siberia
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An easy bridge and my pleasure

Let your enemies leave you
If you attain to wealth let it stay with you
forever
Let your beauty be as Apsara's beauty
Let many follow you serving and protecting you wherever you may go


2012년 10월 8일 19:38

Aneta B.
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Thanks! All agree!

2012년 10월 8일 19:42

Aneta B.
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Hi, Alex, I know you just started learning Russian, but I think you could help me to evaluate my translation upon Siberia's bridge.
Could you, please?

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2012년 10월 8일 23:54

alexfatt
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Yay, I managed to read the Russian text!! I feel powerful

No idea what it means yet, but judging from the English bridge you did it perfectly. But why you chose to translate красота/beauty with two different words in Latin? Are there some nuances of meaning I'm unaware of?


2012년 10월 9일 09:26

Aneta B.
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Hi Alex,
Bravo, you can already read in Russian!

Yes, all existing words have a bit different meaning, there aren't two different words with exactly the same meaning.
In this case both "pulchritudo" and "forma" mean "beauty" indeed, but the first one is more an abstract noun (beauty in general), meanwhile "forma" refers to beauty of a body.

2012년 10월 9일 16:22

alexfatt
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I see, thanks for explaining dear Aneta!
I believe both beauties are body beauties though (your beauty and Aspara's beauty), aren't they?


2012년 10월 9일 17:18

Aneta B.
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Not exactly, Alex. You know Latin is richer in its words meanings than for example English language.

-->pulchritudo" can refer to body's beauty but also to "nature's beauty, sunset's beauty, music's beauty, world's beauty, human soul's beauty etc. (It may describe general beauty)

-->"forma" can refer only to body's/shape's beauty.

That's the difference.

2012년 10월 9일 17:09

Aneta B.
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Compare them with adjectives, please:

pulchritudo-->pulcher, pulchra, puchrum
forma -> formosus, formosa, formosum

We can say:
puer pulcher, puella pulchra, dies pulcher, musica pulchra, spectaculum pulchrum etc.

We can also say:
puer formosus, puella formosa, even animal formosum
But we never can say: dies formosus, musica formosa, spectaculum formosum!

2012년 10월 9일 23:10

alexfatt
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I'm sorry Aneta, I don't get it yet...
Isn't the line talking about the beauty of two women?

2012년 10월 9일 23:23

Aneta B.
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Why TWO women, Alex?

"Let your beauty be as Apsara's beauty"

Apsara

-->the comparison refers to a female beauty ("forma" femina). Doesn't it?

2012년 10월 9일 23:28

alexfatt
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I'm sorry, I did not know what Apsara was! So it's like saying "Let your beauty be as Aphrodites's beauty" in the Greek world?

2012년 10월 9일 23:32

Aneta B.
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2012년 10월 9일 23:44

Aneta B.
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And I translated the first "beauty" with "pulchritudo", because it could be taken in general, even if the comparison refers to the female beauty (forma).

That is how I understand the line:

Let your beauty (in general: your look, your mentality, your soul, your way of living, your behaviour..) be as Aspara's beauty (=as Aspara's body/shape/look)


2012년 10월 10일 23:05

alexfatt
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Ok, now I agree

Thanks for not losing your patience