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Je me propose de vous condamner à une pécuniaire...
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Je me propose de vous condamner à une pécuniaire de 30 jours-amende avec sursis au maximum
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12 اکتبر 2007 11:29

Maski
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Hum, could I have an English bridge for this pleaase...

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12 اکتبر 2007 11:51

Francky5591
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Well, I'll try, but the French version isn't that correct, as if it is about some requisitory, one wouldn't say "je me propose, but "je requiers" une réparation pécuniaire (and not simply "une pécuniaire"...
So, "I require you to be sentenced to a pecuniary compensation up to thirty days of penality with a maximum stay of execution"
problem is that I'm not especially skilled in juridic terms...Simply I think it is rather about a requisitory than a judgment (decision).
Please guilon, could you help us on that one?


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13 اکتبر 2007 00:33

guilon
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Let me try now,

"I intend to sentence you to a pecuniary penalty of 30 day-fines under suspended sentence of up to the maximum"

-I think "je me propose" is correct here and means "My intention is". As when you say "je me propose de maigrir" I intend to loose weight.

-I do think this is a judgement (a decision of a judge) only judges can impose those kind of penalties and only through formal judgements.

-You are right about "pécuniaire", it should be "une peine pécuniaire" unless it's some legal ellipsis I have never heard (as if "peine" was superfluous)

-A "jour-amende" is called a "day-fine" in English, as well as an "unit fine". It's a substitute for prison, that is, prison is avoided as far as the fine is satisfied. Every day-fine is equivalent to one day in jail.

-"Stay of execution" is an order to temporarily stop the execution of a judgement. For instance, in light of new evidences that could absolve the convicted, or for medical reasons. It's called "suspension de peine" in French. Execution is often resumed afterwards.

-"Suspended sentence" ("sursis" in French) is when the judge passes a sentence and at the same time suspends it during the same period of time the original penalty had. Throughout this period the convicted should show a good behaviour and commit no other crime, otherwise he will be called on to serve the sentence. Once this period is elapsed, he is free to go.

I'm sorry if I was too exhaustive.

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13 اکتبر 2007 04:45

Maski
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Thank you both very much! Guilon, just exhaustive enough