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תרגום - אנגלית-לטינית - I wonder if I personify all human qualities at...

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I wonder if I personify all human qualities at...
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נשלח על ידי salimworld
שפת המקור: אנגלית

I wonder if I personify all human qualities at their extremes.
The same in love as relentless.
The same a saint as heretic
The same a man as woman
I am human
הערות לגבי התרגום
Poetic tone is preferred for translation.
This text is translated by myself from another language; so I prefer to clarify "the same" phrases with an example:
"The same a man as woman" should be interpreted: "As a human I reflect both man and woman qualities".

שם
Utrum humanam naturam tribuam ...
תרגום
לטינית

תורגם על ידי Aneta B.
שפת המטרה: לטינית

Considero utrum humanam naturam
omnibus qualitatibus humanis
in extremis tribuam.
Idem amans idem ac inexorabilis
Idem sanctus idem ac hereticus
Idem vir eademque femina
Humanus sum.
הערות לגבי התרגום
If the person speaking was a woman, the following changes would appear:

...Idem sancta idem ac heretica...

Humana sum.

p.s. I translated "human" as an adjective here (=I have the nature of people).
אושר לאחרונה ע"י Efylove - 3 יולי 2011 20:18





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16 מאי 2011 12:16

Lein
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Hi Francky,

Why did you put this one in standby?

CC: Francky5591

16 מאי 2011 12:27

Francky5591
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Hi Marjolein!

I may have done it a bit fast, this was just because there are no conjugated verb in the following lines :

The same in love as relentless.
The same a saint as heretic
The same a man as woman

Please feel free to release the text if you think it is not breaking our rule #4. As you're an expert in English, you rule and I won't say anything against.


16 מאי 2011 12:32

Lein
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As this text is a coherent text, I think it would be fine to accept it, even if there are some lines without verbs. However, the English is rather crooked; I wonder if Kafetzou or Ian could help us make this text into something more English, which might be easier to translate?

CC: IanMegill2 kafetzou

17 מאי 2011 04:45

IanMegill2
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Hmmm
Well, as a poem, I would accept the text as it now stands. For a native speaker, it is a perfectly normal poetic text, and adding verbal redundancy could be considered to be damaging the poetic quality of the the poem.
At any rate, here is my understanding of what the writer is saying, for the purpose of translation / bridging:
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I think that I am a good example of the extreme opposite qualities that humans can possess.
I feel extremely deep love, but I can also be unyielding (and unforgiving).
I can be (as pure as) a saint, or (as irreligious and irreverent as) a someone who doesn't believe in religion at all (or who believes in a different religion, or in a different way).
I possess both masculine and feminine qualities in their entirety.
I can contain what seem to be absolutely contradictory extremes within myself, just as other humans do.
---
Of course, as poems are more Objective than our usual Subjective way of communicating our ideas, they are more open to interpretation than usual communicative expressions. My above interpretation therefore also contains my interpolations about this poem's meaning: other readers might have added different interpolations...

17 מאי 2011 11:16

salimworld
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Dear IanMegill2,

Thanks for shedding light on the subject. I confirm your interpretation of the text.

And thanks for your time

17 מאי 2011 11:26

IanMegill2
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Hi salimworld,
I'm glad I wasn't too far off the mark!
I hope someone can give you a Latin version of it...

25 מאי 2011 09:01

salimworld
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Thanks Aneta B. for translation and your remarks. I think your interpretation of the last sentence would be fine

27 יוני 2011 20:53

Efylove
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Hi Aneta!
I can't understand why you translated the first sentence in this way. Could you help me, please?
Thanks, dear!

SZ

28 יוני 2011 15:49

Aneta B.
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Haha! You probably mean the idiomatic expression:

personify = humanam naturam tribuere (+dat)

Is it more clear now?

3 יולי 2011 20:18

Efylove
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Of course, sweety!

4 יולי 2011 12:25

salimworld
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Wow! The first three lines seem pretty poetic
Thanks Aneta and Efylove