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O Primeiro Mistério Gozoso é: A ...
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O Primeiro Mistério Gozoso é: A Anunciação do Anjo Gabriel à Maria.
O Segundo Mistério Gozoso é: A Visita de Maria à sua prima Isabel.
O Terceiro Mistério Gozoso é: O Nascimento de Jesus.
O Quarto Mistério Gozoso é: A Apresentação do Menino Jesus no templo.
O Quinto Mistério Gozoso é: O Encontro de Jesus no templo.
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Text edited (conjugated verb inserted) in order to be acceptable for translation <Lilian>

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Mysteria gaudiosa
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Primum Mysterium Gaudiosum est: Angeli Gabrielis Annuntiatio Mariae.
Secundum Mysterium Gaudiosum est: Mariae Visitatio ad consobrinam Elisabeth.
Tertium Mysterium Gaudiosum est: Jesu Nativitas.
Quartum Mysterium Gaudiosum est: Jesu Pueri Praesentatio in templo.
Quintum Mysterium Gaudiosum est: Jesu Inventio in templo.
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21 september 2009 12:33

lilian canale
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Hi Efylove, again, who was the bridger?

21 september 2009 12:39

Efylove
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Sorry, I'm quite absentminded...

21 september 2009 12:44

Efylove
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Is this bridge ok?
"The first mystery of joy is: Angel Gabriel's Annunciation to Mary.
The second mystery of joy is: Mary's Visit to her cousin Elisabeth.
The third mystery of joy is: Jesus' Birth.
The fourth mystery of joy is: Child Jesus' Presentation in the temple.
The fifth mystery of joy is: Jesu' Meeting in the temple."
Thanks. Next time I'll be more careful.

21 september 2009 12:45

lilian canale
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As I explained before, you can't provide yourself a bridge from a language you are not an expert. Your bridges are valid from Italian or Latin. See what I mean?
If you didn't get a bridge from a Brazilian Portuguese bridger, you just let Aneta check the translation by asking for a bridge of for a confirmation of a bridge build by her.

Confusing?

21 september 2009 12:47

Efylove
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Thanks for the explanation.


21 september 2009 16:30

Aneta B.
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So, Lilly, could you confirm the bridge above?

22 september 2009 11:52

lilian canale
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It's correct

22 september 2009 11:59

Aneta B.
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Thanks a lot!

22 september 2009 12:25

Aneta B.
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This is standard, Efee, of course not full names...

Mysteria Gaudiosa

Primum Mysterium Gaudiosum: Annuntiatio
Secundum Mysterium Gaudiosum: Visitatio
Tertium Mysterium Gaudiosum: Nativitas
Quartum Mysterium Gaudiosum: Presentatio
Quintum Mysterium Gaudiosum: Inventio in Templo

What do you think about it?



22 september 2009 12:30

Efylove
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I've changed something according to your suggestion.
I think it's better now.

23 september 2009 16:05

Aneta B.
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Visitatio ad consobrinam --> visitatio apud...
Jesu Pueris Praesentatio --> Jesu Puero/Puerulo Praesentatio

?

23 september 2009 21:34

Efylove
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Visitatio apud ----> ok.
The second one - my mistake! - I wrote Pueris instead of the genitivus Pueri... Why did you propose Puero/Puerulo? Ablativus Absulutus?




23 september 2009 21:57

Aneta B.
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Yes. I knew you thought about genetivus and it was only your "absentmindedness" (sometimes we are so similar!), but I propose here ABLATIVUS ABSOLUTUS... It fits here very well in my opinion.

Compare with these ones:

Caesare Consule - When Caesar was a consul...
Romulo rege - When Romulus was a king...

so --> Iesu puerulo - When Jesus was a baby boy...

What do you think, my dear Efee?

23 september 2009 22:08

Aneta B.
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Of course if you choose "Iesu pueri/pueruli" it also will be correct... and maybe even closer to the original... so your choice, dear one!

24 september 2009 20:45

Efylove
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I'd prefer the genetivus, because it's more litteral and because "puero" maybe could be ambigous... But, sweety, if you think that ablativus is better, long life to ablativus!!

24 september 2009 21:36

Aneta B.
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Efee, it is your choice, as I told you before... You are a wise girl and a great Latin expert, so I can't force anything on you...
Genetivus is, of course, very appropriate and convey the meaning in a literal way...
You can use it, of course. I am with your choice whatever it will be, dear one...

24 september 2009 21:31

Efylove
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25 september 2009 14:51

Aneta B.
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It's perfect now!