Vertaling - Turks-Spaans - yildizimi da atayim da tam olsun

Kafetzou, what does "throw in my star" mean? Is it some idiom? On the other hand, what is supposed "to be complete" after this action, because these sentences don't make much sense in Spanish.

They don't in English or Turkish either. I wrote to serba before I did the English translation to ask if it was an idiom, and he said it was not. I assume it's part of a conversation. Maybe it's between two lovers speaking metaphorically of their "stars", and throwing them together or something.

Hola, Kafe y Guilon.

De acuerdo con tu propia versión en inglés, la frase en español sería:

" Voy a arrojar mi estrella también, así estará completo"

Me hace imaginar algo como una poción mágica...
¿parece locura?

Creo que si. ¿Quieres rechazar mi traducción, o quieres que la correja?

Por mí, mejor que la corrijas.

OK - I did it. But I'm not sure that "arrojar" is correct. The verb "atmak" in Turkish can mean many things, such as "throw, throw in, add, etc." - I took it to mean "throw in" or "add in" - añadir?

I changed the last part. In Turkish, it's the subjunctive: that it may be complete (it's just that we don't say that in English, but I believe it's possible in Spanish).

Also, the verb form of the first part is the 1st person imperative, similar to "let's" but singular ("let me" ). Again, this is not a form that we use in English, but it may be in Spanish. Can you guys help?

CC: guilon lilian canale

Bueno, si es así entonces:

"Déjame arrojar/echar mi estrella también para que esté/quede completo."

tanto "arrojar" como "echar" es correcto, lo mismo pasa con la forma del subjuntivo, puede ser "esté" o "quede".

En español no existe una forma de imperativo de la 1ª persona, entonces la mejor manera de expresar la voluntad es usar "déjame" + infinitivo.

¿Tienes otra idea mejor Guilon?

Sorry, Lilian, but I don't think it's "déjame". The form in Turkish expresses volunteering, which is why it's easily translated into English with "I'll".

Verb tenses are always a problem, no matter the language, aren't they?

Anyway, just to make that clear

Voy a arrojar = I'm going to throw in
Arrojaré = I will throw in
Déjame arrojar = Let me throw in

Are these exactly parallel to their English translations, Lilian? For example, is "arrojaré" used for volunteering? For example, when the phone is ringing, in English we say "I'll get it!" - what do you say in Spanish?

Actually, there are many uses of "I'll" in English for short statements. Those in Spanish would probably be said in Simple Present.
That "I'll get it" for answering the phone, in Spanish would be: "Yo atiendo".

I'll be right back = Ya vuelvo (vuelvo enseguida/pronto)

But in a longer sentence like this: "I'll throw in my star too, so it'll be complete" the Simple Present would not combine.

Entonces, how about "Arrojo mi estrella también, para que esté completo"?

NOTE: The reason for the use of future tense in the type of sentence we're talking about in English is not that the statement is short - it's that the intention is to volunteer to do something, and that is exactly the meaning of the Turkish here, too.

Here is an example that is not short, but has the same meaning: "I'll give her a call as soon as I get back."

I think the way the sentence is now is correct.

It shows volunteer to throw in the star for something to be complete.

What I tried to show by comparing "voy a arrojar" to "I'm going to throw in" is that when we use "going to", we usually mean that we have decided to do something, that the action we are taking is our choice. That's what we mean with "Voy a..." in Spanish
Of course, this sometimes varies according to the sentence, but in general we can put it this way.

I guess we can set a poll now.

What do you think?

No - I think it's wrong. It wasn't "I'm going to" in the original. I'm going to change it before you set the poll.

OK, I can't understand Turkish.
You must know what is the exact meaning in the original, as I have already said somewhere, you master Turkish very well.