ترجمه - اسپرانتو-انگلیسی - laudado al vi kaj via sinjoroj ho Alĝerio al...

Hi zciric

I would take of the "s" from "yours", and put a comma between "high ranked" and "tormented".

"lords" should take a capital "L"

"To disappear" is not a verb, so we need to find another word.

The ending seems a bit complicated, I don't really understand he "ashamed dust", but the poll is there to help us sort this out

Bises
Tantine

I put the changes.
So, I can change (add) punctuation marks when they are missing from the original texts?
Somewhere I read that I should leave everything as it is...

But in my dictionary they put v. beside "disappear" Anyway, I found another word. Better one?
Also for that dust...

Greetings

p.s.
"bises" ? What does that mean? I suppose, it is some kind to say "bye", but I'm interesting in the real meaning of the word. Thanks.

Hi zciric

"Bises" is a sweet way of saying "kisses", in French.

The general rule is to leave the punctuation of the original text, but only when it is possible. Most of the time a translation becomes readable simply by adding a comma here and an exclamation mark there

Personally I will accept a text where the punctuation has been changed if it makes the text more easily readable.

I'm still having some difficulties with the end bit

Are you sure of the word "till"? It seems to create a contradiction here. I would have expected to see "lest" or "unless" - "lest your name be covered with the dust of shame"

Bises
Tantine

My understanding of the original is a bit different.
First "laudado" is a noun and I think "praise" would fit quite well.
Because the "al" is repeated in line 2 I would say line 1 and 2 belong together and line 3 begins a new sentence.
"malaperus vi ..." would then translate to "would you remove ..."
The "ne" in line 4 changes the meaning to "until no dust rests"

My proposal:
Praise to you and your Lords, oh Algeria!
To you and your high ranked, tormented Lords.
Would you remove the enemy if you would stand up from your seat?
... until no dust of shame rests on your name?

I inserted rather a lot of punctuation to stress the way I understand the text - you could do with less.

Btw: "to disappear" is a verb, it's just not transitive

Hi Tantine,

thanks for the explication. I was thinking about "kisses", but I wasn't sure.
Now I am sure.... and I can even see the meaning... A really obvious explain, really !

Now I, also, have more ideas what to do with the punctuation, (to put (be) or not (to be)),
what are the general rules and principles, and so on...

Till next message
Greetings

Hi Bhatarsaigh,

Thanks for the suggestions, but I rather wouldn't change so much my translation. I didn't feel that question nuance so strong... in fact I didn't feel it at all.
That would be quit different way of translation, and I couldn't do that in that way.

Maybe it is better that you put your (new) translation instead of my eventual new correction... especially because I still don't feel so strong that question-nuance.

Greetings