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Translation - Turkish-Spanish - herkes haddini bilmeli ve ona göre hareket etmeli

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herkes haddini bilmeli ve ona göre hareket etmeli
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Submitted by bahadirercan
Source language: Turkish

herkes haddini bilmeli ve ona göre hareket etmeli

Title
Cada uno debe saber...
Translation
Spanish

Translated by Sunnybebek
Target language: Spanish

Cada uno debe saber dónde está su lugar y actuar en consecuencia.
Last validated or edited by Isildur__ - 21 January 2010 23:12





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21 January 2010 21:41

Sunnybebek
Number of messages: 758
Hi Isildur!

Could you explain me, please, why should we use here verb "conocer" and not "saber"? What is the difference between their usage?

Thank you!

CC: Isildur__

21 January 2010 22:02

Isildur__
Number of messages: 276
Sure!

In this sentence particularly, it is just because the idiom/collocation "conocer sus propios límites" exist. In fact, I've just edited it again to change it into plural. It could have been "sé cuáles son mis límites", "sé dónde empiezan mis límites" too.

Generally speaking, it's not easy to stablish the difference between "saber" and "conocer", but I think that the trick which can help most of times is that usually "aprender" or "enterarse" can be used in the same situation that "saber". Otherwise, the most suitable verb will be probably "conocer".

- Sé inglés. Lo he aprendido en los últimos años.
- Sé que te vas a Francia, me enteré ayer por un amigo.

But:

- Sé* a Pedro. Lo aprendo* desde hace dos semanas



Unfortunately, there are other examples which don't fit with this rule...

Maybe this link can help you

http://www.aulahispanica.com/node/121

P.S. Just wondering... I've come up with a personal theory lol. "Sé" may be used when, as I said above, the complement can be used with "aprender", and when "sé"="conozco la siguiente información:"

That's surely why "sé mis límites" is not correct: "conozco la siguiente información: mis límites".

But "sé cuáles son mis límites" = "conozco la siguiente información: cuáles son mis límites".

Perhaps I have just confused it even more lol

CC: lilian canale

21 January 2010 22:16

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972

22 January 2010 12:06

Sunnybebek
Number of messages: 758
Thanks a lot for your ideas and for a link too, Isildur!
Well, hehe it's still confusing for me, but I'll try to practise more and I hope it'll help!