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2 September 2007 18:35  

thathavieira
Number of messages: 2247
Maybe is the same thing... hehe.
And no one would ever know if Zappa was or not naked in this picture... this is a mistery. Although I can see something blue below the paper... Jeans maybe?
 

3 September 2007 10:22  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
Hi, Kafetzou, my Childish Nude is in fact a new term roughly translated from Chinese赤条条(Chi Tiao Tiao), which literally means Red Nude, because baby is born nude and red from mother's womb. But we also use this term to depict a going man, so it rather a philosophical idea that I have told you, people come to the world nude and go back nude, without taking anything.

And in our minds, nude can only be shame if not naive, then what is shame? because nude implies sex, and sex is deemed dirty both in organs and in spirits, so bared body is deemed ugly except for baby or chldren who don't know how to wear clothes. what is naive? I just attached that childish style of nude, for example, baby, child, stupid man, mad man, etc. can wear nothing, and people will not regard them breaching the threshold of shame to dignity, on the contrary, if a mature and wise man wears nothing, people will say, he is shame or bad, because man should have a sense of right or wrong, wearing clothes is a doctrine that everyone have to obey, those who does not need to obey must be the mad, stupid, brainless, baby, minor children, and so on who don't know what is right or wrong, and who are free from this doctrine of morality.

so Zappa's nude is mature nude, but people will not say he is mad or he is breaching morality baseline, but say he is innocent and purest and naive and simple and free and open and direct to God.

Zappa is sober and wise, so we can only depict his nude as Childish Nude, to explain this behaviour, because we can not say he is mad, or indelicate MAN.

And I would have put more emphasis on the philosophical implications of my coinage. And I believe Zappa had the same philosophy as I, because I would like to wear nothing or very few clothes (here clothes can also be decorations or disguise when you want to realise or show something, that is, clothese can be construed physically and mentally) when I want to draw up my thoughts from what illumines me, maybe it is God who I don't believe. This naive is most direct to heart, so I like to behave it, and I persist that a deed without pollutions of excess demands must be deemed childish in mature eyes, and this naive encourages me to face the hardest distortion of reality and overcome any thinkable difficulties. So I believe I can be childish all my life. In this case, I think Zappa is the same person as me.
 

3 September 2007 15:34  

kafetzou
Number of messages: 7963
Thanks for the explanation, but I agree with Cisa that he had probably just taken his shirt off because it was a hot day.
 

8 August 2008 11:07  

italo07
Number of messages: 1474
...the yes and no game

Wolfgang must not say neither Ja nor Nein...but he has difficulties

Click in the following link and have fun
 
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