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Traduction - Latin-Anglais - ipsa rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!

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ipsa rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!
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Proposé par dimitriscfu
Langue de départ: Latin

ipsa rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!

Titre
the same thing consolidated this word!
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Anglais

Traduit par jedi2000
Langue d'arrivée: Anglais

the same thing consolidated this word!
Commentaires pour la traduction
dictum, i, n. : saying, word; maxim; bon mot, witticism; order;
Dernière édition ou validation par lilian canale - 23 Janvier 2010 12:07





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16 Janvier 2010 22:24

Aneta B.
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Hm, sth wrong is with Latin here.

Obviously should be "ipsa res comfirmavit hoc dictum!

The translation is ok.

16 Janvier 2010 22:31

Aneta B.
Nombre de messages: 4487
The second possibility ""ipsam rem comfirmavit hoc dictum!

but then, the translation would change:
"this word/expression consolidated the same thing"

I think it is more possible and we should ask the requester to check the source.

18 Janvier 2010 09:24

jedi2000
Nombre de messages: 110
Yes indeed ! "ipsa rem" is wrong. I believed it was in nominative case. "ipsa res" (nom./voc. case) and "ipsam rem" (acc. case) can match.

Maybe there is an inversion between "ipsa" and "res".
For example "Res ipsa loquitur" => "the thing itself speaks" or "the thing speaks for itself", well-known expression in law.

18 Janvier 2010 14:01

Aneta B.
Nombre de messages: 4487
I don't know what inversion you mean. Do you mean we have here "ipsa res", and not "res ipsa"? The opposite order is possible even if it is not stricte Latin order.

If it is in nominative it is a subject. If it was in accusative it would be an object. That's all.

The point is that "hoc dictum" is neutrum, so it could be as well the subject as the object. Everyting depends on "res ipsa" or "rem ipsam".
So, if you say it is nominative, the translation is fine.