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I would like to make some observations:

"av den" means "by the one" and not "by those", Can not be translated by plural, because "den" reffers to the singular. Than it should has been "de" in the Sweedish text.

ecclesiastical means, according to Oxford dictionary, "relating to the Christian Church or its clergy" or Romans were not Christian, so, in my opinion, the word is incorrectly used. More correct would be "relligious official position".

Than "erhöll" means "to receive" or "to get" and it has been translated by "had", which is, again, not 100% correct.

CC: pias

"By the one" or "by those" have the same effect here.
I'm trying not to make literal translations.

This is a tax from the XV century, not from antient Rome.

Kyrka = church.

CC: Bamsa

OK, my mistake there, the original text did write "Roman", this creates confusions. What about "erhøll"?

kyrkligt = relligious and, by the way, we have almost the same word in Faroese.

Wow. That was my HUGE mistake.
Thank you for pointing me this one (erhöll), Bamsa.

And yes, you are right about kyrkligt=religius, but you can see that it's an adjective for "church", like "churchy".

Casper,
1. Bamsa is right, this IS singular , den = "by the one..."

2. About the meaning of ecclesiastical.. I think he is right about it and maybe you should use a more neutral word for "kyrkligt ämbete", religious official position or church's official position.

3. This is not about tax, just a charge or a fee.

Ok, ok, I will change 6 for six.

Casper,
according to (the best dictionary!!)wiki "kyrkligt ämbete"
is the same as Patriark = Patriarch
maybe you could use that word...

NO Pia. There it's like an explanation, like
Patriark (kyrkligt ämbete)
Elephant (animal)

Because there can be more than one arcticle with the same name.
Patriarch can't be applied here.
Anyway, thank you.

yes..you are right...

after many hours today in front of the computer, my brain is not 'with me'

Yeah.
I know what is it like.

Hola otra vez, estoy leyendo la argumentación que tuviste con Pias y Bamsa sobre mi texto, y me encantaría saber, en español, de qué se trató. ¿A qué conclusión llegaron?. ¿La Curia Romana es la iglesia romana?. ¿El pago es un impuesto?. ¿Quién le paga a quién, la curia al que va a trabajar en la iglesia o el que trabaja en la iglesia a la curia?. Por favor, aclara mis dudas.

Hi gabyvirtual,
please write in english..
I don't understand.

Hi Pias, excuse me but my english is so bad, i have friends that help me to understand it, that is the reason (¿?) because i said that i understand english. Excuse me if you do not understand my english or my spanish

But that is not a problem to me understand you sometimes, some words. (again excuse my english)

It's ok gabyvirtual
and beside, I don't understand Spanish..
I was just curious about what you wrote, if you thought that something in the translation was wrong or similar.

sorry, but your english is over me (¿?). I need somebody read it for me

Hi guilon or Lila F.
Please could some of you bridge the message sent
21 December 2007 14:16 to Spanish.
gabyvirtual don't understand what I try to say...

..some points for your help!



CC: guilon Lila F.