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Kichwa	sunt enim qui eas concitant, plerumque.
Nakala Tafsiri iliombwa na Helvio Moraes	Lugha ya kimaumbile: Kilatini sunt enim qui eas concitant, plerumque.
Maelezo kwa mfasiri	Esta frase se encontra numa obra que, no momento, estudo. Ela seria a traduÃ§Ã£o de uma frase muito complicada em italiano: "ritornando in gire col fine, nel primiero suo nascimento". Como nÃ£o consegui, de modo algum, compreender o sentido desta frase em italiano, gostaria de saber se, pela traduÃ§Ã£o latina, Ã© possÃvel entender o que o autor diz. ---- plerumq--> plerumque <edited by Aneta B.>

Kichwa	there are those, in fact, who ...
Tafsiri Kiingereza Ilitafsiriwa na Aneta B.	Lugha inayolengwa: Kiingereza In fact, there are those who encourage them, usually.
Maelezo kwa mfasiri	excite them" or stimulate them" ('them" --> concerns persons or things in feminine gender)

Ilisahihishwa au kuhaririwa mwisho na lilian canale

- 8 Februari 2010 11:07

Ujumbe wa hivi karibuni

	Mwandishi	Ujumbe
		30 Januari 2010 18:43
	Efylove Idadi ya ujumbe: 1015	Hi Aneta! In the Italian translation I have "plerumq[ue]" as "spesso" ("often"... what do you think about it? Could "often" be better than "a lot of them"?
		30 Januari 2010 18:59
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Yes, it is an adverb, so "often" would be better indeed. More possiblities: usually, generally, ordinarily. Lilly I'd like to edit my English version.
		30 Januari 2010 22:29
	lilian canale Idadi ya ujumbe: 14972	Go ahead!
		7 Februari 2010 16:26
	lilian canale Idadi ya ujumbe: 14972	Could that "excite" be "encourage"? And I wonder why you still haven't corrected that last word.
		7 Februari 2010 21:37
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Oh, I haven't noticed your "go ahead", Lilly. I'm sorry. I will correct of course. And, Ã propos your question,yes, it can be also translated "encourage" , but actually "concitant" has got more meanings, it can also mean: "shake sb up", "agitate", "provoke" etc. We would need a context to be sure what the verb exactly means here, I guess.
		8 Februari 2010 01:07
	Maybe:-) Idadi ya ujumbe: 338	Hi Aneta! It seems that only the translation of the word "enim" (infatti/indeed) is missing... what do you think?
		8 Februari 2010 10:01
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	"enim" =because, in fact, namely, on the contrary, however... rather not "indeed" It's difficult to decide which translation of the word is right in such a short sentence... But would prefer here "because" "because there are those who excite them, usually". What do you think, Efee.
		8 Februari 2010 10:09
	jedi2000 Idadi ya ujumbe: 110	I agree with Lilian about the use of verb 'encourage'. In the context, we guess that women encourage some people. For the meaning, what about clarify who 'excite' or 'encourage' them ? I suggest '... there are those women who..."
		8 Februari 2010 11:03
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Unfortunately we don't have here a word "women" (feminae), but I understand that you know context, jedi. Coming back to the word "enim". I think the possible translation can be too: "there are those, in fact, who excite/encourage them, usually".