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16 December 2005 16:34  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
I don't know what the "virtual" mean here,

is it "real", or "unreal"? or someting like to be identified, or unidentified?

Give me more context.
 

16 December 2005 16:52  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
In fact "virtual" in the context means more "unreal" or "potential". Maybe I should have used "potential" which is more accurate for thei case.
The "virutal points" will become "real points", once all the translations you've done will be accepted.
 

16 December 2005 17:34  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
ok I'd choose "潜在" which means potential.

Thanks!
 

5 September 2007 13:35  

Cisa
Number of messages: 765
Well, I thought that if somebody has some ideas whether a new language could be added, we could write it down here.

 

5 September 2007 14:22  

Cisa
Number of messages: 765
I´ll start!

Gallego

Sanskrit

Cantonese

Nynorsk (Porfyhr´s suggestion )

Sindarin

Quenya

Swahili

Ancient Greek /dunno which dialect, but it could be distincted from Modern Greek translations...?/

These are the first ones I could think of...
 

5 September 2007 21:49  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
Cantonese should not be added, if this site is designed right.

Instead, you can add Tibetan, and many other Chinese minor ethonic languages, in stead of Chinese dialects which in your linguistical eyes might belong to a new language.

There are just too many Chinese minor ethonic languages, but most of them are romanized, so I can only point out some without romanization, like:

Tibetan, Uigur, Manchu (dead but still used and archived, and still alive among a small Manchu new race--Tiber, their Tiber language is descendant of Manchu, but a little different in oral), Mongol (outer and inner, they are in different alphabets), Kazakh (which is also the official language of Kazakstan), Yi ethonic language, Korean (North Korean language, a little diferent from South Korean, but Chinese korean ethnic language is still a little different from North Korean one, but they are more silimar), Uzbek, Tartar (I don't know if they speak Russian or uigur), Khalkhas, Tahur...
 

6 September 2007 05:03  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
What anoys me in adding too many languages, is the huge list of languages that will make he pages (registration, translation submition etc...) so heavy.

And many languages are never used or never translated.

We should only add the languages that are useful, asked by a new member because he can speak/write them, or the languages spoken by a wide range of people.

For now I have in my list :

sanskrit , punjabi, galician, tibetan

There will be also "Other languages" for languages that are not in the list in order people can request translations into languages that are not in the list (specifying it in the comment field). This way we can see what languages are requested the most and add them later.

 

6 September 2007 05:08  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
Which galician, from Spain or Poland? the dictionary tells me two.

Well, Sanskrit is said a dead language, only existed in literature, like Chinese wenyanwen, if this can be considered, may I ask for a wenyanwen section?

Oh, yes, you have added one, that was latin, but I tell you, wenyanwen is the asian latin, educated asians, especiall easten asians (including Korean, Japanese, vietamese and so on) can read wenyanwen,
 

6 September 2007 05:36  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
galician (spain), many spanish could tansalte into this language, so that's why it was requested several times.

wenyanwen, do you think we would get request for this language ?

I added Sanskrit because our new hindi expert drkkp can write Sanskrit.
 

6 September 2007 06:20  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
Yes of course, wenyanwen was widely used in ancient Chinese empire, and still used by many Chinese writters and poets, it is deemed traditional and most elegant and official and even solemn & holy language in nowadays China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, it has different grammars with modern Chinese, some words are obsolete, but some are still in use, it is a saying that, if you cannot speak Japanese, please write wenyanwen, the japanese will understand you, because in today's japan, wenyanwen is still taught in school to university as their traditional language "Chinese", if I am not offending any japanese patriots.

It is like to say whether we can get latin demands as you ask whether there is any wenyanwen demands. Within China, there are many articles to be made or translated in wenyanwen by professional writters, then used officially, and in worldwide, many traditional books would like to be translated into modern chinese as we call "baihuawen", and in China itself, in every year, there will be voluminous books to be translated into baihuawen (modern Chinese) and published, vise visa, I can also believe such in Japan, or Korea, lots of literature needs to be modernized, but many literature are not publicized, that is a problem.

both Taiwan and Mainland speak modern Chinese, but Taiwan and Hong Kong, Macau write in traditional characters, which were invented gradually and made official by Jaingjieshi and Maozedong,
before 1919, all Chinese was written in wenyanwen, but there was a cultural revolution, we call "May 4th Movement", this built a new langauage, that is today's spoken language Mandarin and its writting form, Mordern Chinese.

So wenyanwen is a history not so far, it is fresher than latin which was lost many hundreds of years ago.

But if you really want to add, you must use another coding system, UTF-8? I am not technical, so I can only remember that many old characters are not included in this font system, as well as Tibetan letters, so you must change something.

By the way, I almost forgot that, you should add Vietnamese, the Frenchised Vietnamese, and minor demands for North Korean, as well as uigur, note uigur has special letters containing vowells which is not included in former arabic alphabet.

And mongol, to add, there are different alphabets from inner mongol and outer mongl, to consider.

So must change your coding system, or add more font files.
 

6 September 2007 06:13  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
OK I'm almost convinced

sanskrit , punjabi, galician, tibetan , wenyanwen and "other languages".
 

6 September 2007 06:29  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
If this idea explodes, chrysso or gigi will ask for ancient Greeks
 

23 September 2007 22:25  

kafetzou
Number of messages: 7963
Yiddish.
 

23 September 2007 22:35  

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Romani language
 

24 September 2007 01:12  

IanMegill2
Number of messages: 1671
There was someone I saw the other day, who had recently signed up if I remember correctly, who was Vietnamese. Might be nice to include such a living language with so many speakers...

BTW, Classical Chinese is indeed still studied in high school here in Japan -- it's an important part of some university entrance examinations -- but we never use it to communicate among ourselves anymore. And we have a prohibition here at against using the site "to do your homework"!

Hey, if Latin's around, I think Sanskrit would be cool too, but that's just this guy who loves studying Indian philosophy... And would we ever be able to find an expert for it?
 

24 September 2007 08:18  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
Sanskrit was also in my todolist, I've added romani and yiddish now.
 

24 September 2007 08:28  

iepurica
Number of messages: 2102
OK, if romani ended in the language list, what about Aromanian? It's a dialect of Romanian language, but we can not understand them (only separate words), so it should be considered separate language.
 

24 September 2007 18:28  

iepurica
Number of messages: 2102
For more informations, because I am sure that not many people heard about it, please, have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanian_language
 

24 September 2007 18:34  

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396

25 September 2007 05:15  

Porfyhr
Number of messages: 793
A quite huge amount of people speaking Aromanian, even more than Icelandic... I'm amazed!

Being somekind of spokesman for Sweden/Norway I must propagate for Saami

I do not think we should add it but I should have mentioned it...and now it's done
 
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